不再潜水的人民大众之一 发表于 2010-3-5 11:36:40

海盗分宝石答案不合理的想法

<br /="/"/><div><p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">前几日出差在外,夜晚甚是无聊,于是翻出以前做的一些题目来温习,有道“</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">5</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">个海盗分</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">100</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">颗宝石”的题,大家一定都很熟悉了,原题是:五个海盗抢到了</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">100</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">颗宝石,他们决定这么分:</span><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">抽签决定自己的号码(</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">1</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">、</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">2</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">、</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">3</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">、</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">4</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">、</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">5</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">),首先,由</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">1</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">号提出分配方案,然后大家表决,当且仅当超过半数的人同意时,按照他的方案进行分配,否则将被扔进大海喂鲨鱼。如果</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">1</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">号死后,再由</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">2</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">号提出分配方案,然后剩下的</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">4</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">人进行表决,当且仅当超过半数的人同意时,按照他的方案进行分配,否则将被扔入大海喂鲨鱼</span><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">依此类推。条件:每个海盗都是很聪明的人,都能很理智地做出判断,从而做出选择</span><span style="display:none;">www.ddhw.com</span></p><p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">答案是</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">98</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">,</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">0</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">,</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">1</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">,</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">0</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">,</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">1</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">。过程就不多说了。</span></p><p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></span><span style="display:none;">www.ddhw.com</span></p><p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">但是我发现这个题目有逻辑上的问题:首先</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">5</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">个海盗是决定了分配方法后再抽的签,既然每个海盗都十分聪明,理智,那他们应该能推出决定了这个分配方法后</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">1</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">号会获得绝大部分的宝石,其他海盗能无动于衷吗?假设我是</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">2</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">号,我会跟</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">3</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">号或者</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">5</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">号其中一个说“我给你</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">2</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">颗宝石”,跟</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">4</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">号说“我给你一颗宝石”,然后一起否决</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">1</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">号的分配方式。这样答案就不会是</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">98</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">,</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">0</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">,</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">1</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">,</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">0</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">,</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">1</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">了。而</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">3</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">号为了谋求自己的最大利益,肯定不会只要</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">2</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">颗宝石,于是。。。</span><span style="display:none;">www.ddhw.com</span></p><p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></span></p><p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">大家觉得我这种说法能推出一个最终的分配方式吗?</span></p><p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></span><span style="display:none;">www.ddhw.com</span></p><p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">还有,如果宝石的数量小于海盗的数量,比如只有</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">4</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">颗或者</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">3</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">颗,最终的分配结果又是多少?</span></p></div><span style="display:none;">www.ddhw.com</span><br /="/"/><br /="/"/> <div style="MARGIN-TOP:20px;MARGIN-LEFT:0;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0;float:left"></div>

开开心心 发表于 2010-3-5 12:33:36

两个问题同一答案[;)]

<table cellpadding="8" height="100%" width="100%"><tr><td valign="top"><br /="/"/><div>终极強者独吞<img /="/" src="http://www.ddhw.net/img/21.gif"></img></div><br /="/"/><br /="/"/> <div style="MARGIN-TOP:20px;MARGIN-LEFT:0;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0;float:left"></div></td></tr></table>

husonghu 发表于 2010-3-5 13:21:44

我想, 不是象你所理解的. 应该这样理解:

<table cellpadding="8" height="100%" width="100%"><tr><td valign="top"><br /="/"/><div>1. 首先,大家须明白,海盗无诚信可言. 没有人会相信别人,也没有人能相信别人.</div><div>2. 也因上述原因, 没有你说的前1人提出方案后,剩余几人进行串通合谋的情况.</div><div> </div><div>否则,若真考虑你所说的情况, 则很可能是这样的结果:0,50,50,0,0. 即:第一人为保活命,自愿一颗也不要,讨好第二,第三人和他一起(三票)通过他的提案. 要不然,他的提案很可能被后4人否决而被抛海喂鱼(后4人串通说,把他投进大海得了, 我们每人25颗). 然后, 后3人串通把第二人抛入大海(说我们3人平分100颗). 再然后, 后2人串通把第三人抛入大海(说我们2人平分100颗). 最后,第五人否决第四人把他抛入大海, 一人独吞100颗钻石.</div><div> </div><span style="display:none;">www.ddhw.com</span><br /="/"/><br /="/"/> <div style="MARGIN-TOP:20px;MARGIN-LEFT:0;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0;float:left"></div></td></tr></table>

色盲 发表于 2010-3-7 12:08:07

老实说,这道题我觉得有漏洞

<table cellpadding="8" height="100%" width="100%"><tr><td valign="top"><br /="/"/><div>比如,如何定义“聪明”和“理智”?怎样的行为可以确认为是聪明且理智的?在一个充满变数的情境里,选择是多样的,每一条路径,因为多人参与,都依赖于其他人的选择。在这种情况下,什么样的选择可称为是“聪明且理智”的?</div><br /="/"/><br /="/"/> <div style="MARGIN-TOP:20px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-BOTTOM:10px"><br /="/"/><img /="/" src="/img/sign.gif"></img><a href="http://www.ddhw.org" target="_top"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12px;COLOR:#999999;font-weight:bold">www.ddhw.org</span></a>---<div style="width:450px;MARGIN-LEFT:10px"><div></div><p><input /="/" src="http://upload.ddhw.cn/image/2008/05/28/9889.jpg" style="CURSOR: default" type="image"/></p><p>据说这世界是彩色的?<div> </div><div></div></p></div></div></td></tr></table>

不再潜水的人民大众之一 发表于 2010-3-7 12:53:04

回复:我想, 不是象你所理解的. 应该这样理解:

<table cellpadding="8" height="100%" width="100%"><tr><td valign="top"><br /="/"/><div>Hu版,你好~我不能苟同你的说法。我觉得这种题目能探讨下去的基础就是每个人做出的承诺都能兑现,否则做出推理后又食言就不在我们探讨的范围内了,你觉得呢?</div><span style="display:none;">www.ddhw.com</span><br /="/"/><br /="/"/> <div style="MARGIN-TOP:20px;MARGIN-LEFT:0;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0;float:left"></div></td></tr></table>

xyh 发表于 2010-3-7 16:22:18

我的看法

<table cellpadding="8" height="100%" width="100%"><tr><td valign="top"><br /="/"/>我认为这道题目之所以有这样的一个海盗的故事,目的是给题目创造一个规则环境,让解题者依据此规则解题。简单的说,故事只是为了把规则说得更生动明了一点。<br /="/"/><br /="/"/>因此我对题目的理解是:<br /="/"/>1。前面说投票选择1,2,3,4,5号海盗,其实这条多余,题目可以简单的说,1,2,3,4,5号海盗,依次给出方案。<br /="/"/>2。海盗是贪婪残忍的,可以为了多得一块宝石而让其他海盗去死<br /="/"/>3。海盗是理智的,不会无缘无故的杀人。对我来说如果最终得到宝石的数量一样,我就不会否决。<br /="/"/>4。海盗是聪明的,也就是说,海盗有足够的智慧去分析各种分配方案的最终结果。<br /="/"/><span style="display:none;">www.ddhw.com</span><br /="/"/><br /="/"/> <div style="MARGIN-TOP:20px;MARGIN-LEFT:0;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0;float:left"></div></td></tr></table>

husonghu 发表于 2010-3-7 16:51:54

这样的,潜水兄的思路本身是合理的,但你题的题意与原来的海盗题似乎是两个不同的题...

<table cellpadding="8" height="100%" width="100%"><tr><td valign="top"><br /="/"/><div></div><div></div><div><span style="display:none;">www.ddhw.com</span></div><div>我记得原题的条件确实是<u>海盗之间无诚信</u>,<u>任何两人之间无商量的</u>. 如果你引进你说的条件(既有商量也有诚信),<u>题目就变了.</u>  但我对你说的条件有疑问: 既然后4人会在第1人提出方案时谋取4人同盟的利益最大化,你又怎能保证当轮到第2人提出方案时(此时第1人已被喂鱼),后3人不会背叛4人同盟,再来一次谋取3人同盟的利益最大化呢?显然不能保证. 所以"诚信"这条件是不可能有的. 实际情况将会是:为了个人利益最大化,后面的同盟总会背叛先前的同盟: 3人同盟背叛4人同盟, 再2人同盟背叛3人同盟, 最后是1人独吞而背叛2人同盟 (除非你定义了诚信到底存在于哪几个海盗之间). </div><div> </div><div><u>若真是这样,此题难有固定的答案了.</u> 第1人为求不死,只能无奈地提类似于这样的方案:0,50,50,0,0. 即:讨好第二,第三人和他一起(三票)通过他的提案. 要不然,哪怕他只想得到1颗,他也难保活命-----因为后4人会串通说:"把他投进大海得了, 我们每人25颗". </div><div> <span style="display:none;">www.ddhw.com</span></div><div>但是, 不知你有否认识到, <u>按你引进的条件,你会陷于一个自相矛盾的逻辑境地:</u> 假设剩3号和4号和5号时, 对3号提的某种方案, 比如99-1-0, 4号和5号会如何反应? 按你说的, 4号会跟5号说: "把3号抛入大海,我们平分,每人50". 但是,如果真的到了4号提50-50的方案,5号又会如何反应? <u>是接受他答应赞同过的50-50方案呢?</u> <u>还是否决4号的方案,把他抛入大海,然后独吞100颗呢?</u> 看到你的矛盾了吗? 若是前者,他就违背了海盗"追求利益最大化"的本性了;若是后者,他就违背了你说的"诚信"了. 到底是哪个呢?<span style="display:none;">www.ddhw.com</span></div><div><br /="/"/><font face="Simsun">按原来的题意, 你所提到的以下的情景是不可能发生的: ".....假设我是</font><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">2</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">号,我会跟</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">3</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">号或者</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">5</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">号其中一个说“我给你</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">2</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">颗宝石”,跟</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">4</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">号说“我给你一颗宝石”,然后一起否决</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">1</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">号的分配方式". 问题是:没有人会相信2号的话.若真是<font face="Simsun">否决了</font><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">1</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">号的分配方式(把他抛入大海),轮到2号提方案了.他提的方案是尽可能地取得自己的利益最大化."子系中山狼,得志便猖狂". 他的方案将会是: 98,0,1,1. 如此,<span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">3</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">号和</span><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">5</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">号怎么可能和他一起<font face="Simsun">否决</font><span lang="EN-US"><font face="Times New Roman">1</font></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">号的分配方案呢? </span></span></span></span><span style="display:none;">www.ddhw.com</span></div><div><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></span></span></span></span> <span style="display:none;">www.ddhw.com</span></div><div><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">最后回顾一下那个标准答案是如何得出的: 98-0-1-0-1 (或98-0-1-1-0)是凭"每个海盗都只追求自己的利益最大化"(同时,没有"同盟")而<u>倒推出来的:</u> </span></span></span></span><span style="display:none;">www.ddhw.com</span></div><div><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">(A) 假如只剩4号和5号时, 4号提的方案只能是0-100,否则5号会让4号死;</span></span></span></span><span style="display:none;">www.ddhw.com</span></div><div><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><div><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">(B) 所以,假如只剩3号和4号和5号时,3号提的方案会是99-1-0,因为他知道4号必定支持他(基于A);</span></span></span></span><span style="display:none;">www.ddhw.com</span></div><div><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><div><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">(C) 所以,假如剩2号和3号和4号和5号时,2号提的方案会是98-0-1-1,因为他知道5号必定支持他(基于B),4号也没理由不支持(基于B);</span></span></span></span><span style="display:none;">www.ddhw.com</span></div><div><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">(D) 所以,当5人全在时,1号提的方案会是98-0-1-0-1,或98-0-1-1-0, 因为他知道3号必定支持他(基于C),另一个能得1颗的海盗(4号或5号)也没理由不支持他(基于C).</span></span></span></span><span style="display:none;">www.ddhw.com</span></div></span></span></span></span></div></span></span></span></span></div><br /="/"/><br /="/"/> <p><div align="right"><font color="#ff0000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #c4dfff">  本贴由[<b>husonghu</b>]最后编辑于:2010-3-8 9:33:41  </font></div><div style="MARGIN-TOP:20px;MARGIN-LEFT:0;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0;float:left"></div></p></td></tr></table>

husonghu 发表于 2010-3-7 20:52:03

新新说的对,这就是98-0-1-0-1或98-0-1-1-0方案能获三人支持的原由

<table cellpadding="8" height="100%" width="100%"><tr><td valign="top"><br /="/"/>新新说的对,这就是98-0-1-0-1或98-0-1-1-0方案能获三人支持的原由<span style="display:none;">www.ddhw.com</span><br /="/"/><br /="/"/> <p><div align="right"><font color="#ff0000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #c4dfff">  本贴由[<b>husonghu</b>]最后编辑于:2010-3-7 12:58:16  </font></div><div style="MARGIN-TOP:20px;MARGIN-LEFT:0;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0;float:left"></div></p></td></tr></table>

...... 发表于 2010-3-8 04:37:38

海盗分宝石答案不合理的想法

<table cellpadding="8" height="100%" width="100%"><tr><td valign="top"><br /="/"/><p>海盗分宝石的答案其实是想说明一个命题, 就是:</p><p>一个看似非常平等, 合理的民<b></b>主制度, 再加上公开, 透明的执行操作, 还是会导致一种完全不合理, 不平等的结果.<br /="/"/><br /="/"/><div> </div><span style="display:none;">www.ddhw.com</span><br /="/"/><br /="/"/> <div style="MARGIN-TOP:20px;MARGIN-LEFT:0;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0;float:left"></div></p></td></tr></table>
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